![]() Versus, are you trying to make, like, exciting clothes? And you know, that's, I think, one of the things that carries over. HOLMES: But, like, one of the central tensions of "Runway" has always been the difference between, are you trying to make clothes that people are going to actually buy. Well, and I think - you know, our producer, Jessica Reedy, was talking about how, on the new Amazon show, the big thing is going to be, like, being able to sell your clothes on Amazon. ![]() "Making The Cut" because I think the business aspect that they're trying to push into the show is something I'm craving from this - it's not a reboot, right? But it's just different. And I don't know if it's fair to kind of compare these two shows, but that was kind of the perspective I was coming from.ĬHOW: I definitely do want to see the new show that Heidi and Tim are doing with Amazon.ĬHOW. But then I felt that the show itself felt a little tired to me in comparison to the new spate of fashion reality shows, like "Next In Fashion" on Netflix, which I absolutely love. And I couldn't really remember what was so different, but I just knew that I actually really missed Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn. And having this be my entree back into "Project Runway" - because I used to watch. And by marriage, marriage, marriage, the Trumps, and all that stuff.ĬHOW: So when I saw this clip on Twitter, I cackled, and then was like, I think I need to watch this new season to see what's different. HOLMES: Because Karlie Kloss is married to Jared Kushner's brother, so she is connected to the Kushners. And he said.ĬHOW: Not even to dinner at the Kushners' (laughter)? HOLMES: She said - she was looking at a piece of fashion, and she said, I wouldn't wear this. ![]() And he goes, not even to dinner at the Kushners'? He made a really terrible dress, and she said that she would never wear that, or someone said that she would never wear that. How about you, Kat? What do you think of new "Runway?"ĬHOW: So I basically used to watch "Project Runway" years ago, and I would also watch the spin off, "Models Of The Runway." I started watching again because I saw on Twitter that this contestant, Tyler, was sort of making the rounds because of a snarky response that he gave to Karlie Kloss. He's more willing to put the designers' feet to the fire. THOMPSON: He's a little more critical, yeah. He just seems like a better mentor, a more specific mentor, somebody who's not going to just say, make it work. And Christian Siriano in the role of the mentor - he seems - maybe just - it's newness. Something as simple as a new workroom can kind of make me feel like, oh, I want to see where this is going now. And you need the comfort of that formula, you just need to mix it up. It's like, OK, we're missing something here. WELDON: Red Robin - that's what I was thinking of. THOMPSON: A dress entirely made of roast beef. I think toward the end of the Klum-Gunn era, we were getting, like, challenges and our-friends-at-Arby's, you know? Like, the challenges were getting. And the kind of something it got with these last two seasons is exactly it. WELDON: I am very much down with new "Runway" because this show needed an infusion of something. We talked a little about old "Runway" versus new "Runway." How do you feel about new "Runway?" I'm going to start with you, Glen, and I want to ask you a question. HOLMES: It's so good to have you, as always. HOLMES: And in our fourth chair today, we're always delighted to have with us writer Kat Chow. Also with us is Glen Weldon of the NPR Arts Desk. You just met NPR Music's Stephen Thompson. In this encore episode of NPR's POP CULTURE HAPPY HOUR, we're talking about "Project Runway." But the sewing machines continue to buzz, and it's still hard to make a dress in a day. ![]() Longtime mentor Tim Gunn has been replaced by former winner Christian Siriano. But "Project Runway," now in its 19th season, rolls on. Now, they're in their mature pantsuit years. When "Project Runway" launched in 2004, competitive reality shows were in their infancy.
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